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Question: Colleagues and I want to introduce heavy metals into the        chambers of the oxygraph-2k.                  We were wondering what that would mean in terms of cleaning:                          Would acid-washing the chambers with either 0,1-0,3N HNO3 or HCl        be a problem for the membranes?  
Question: Colleagues and I want to introduce heavy metals into the        chambers of the oxygraph-2k.                  We were wondering what that would mean in terms of cleaning:                          Would acid-washing the chambers with either 0,1-0,3N HNO3 or HCl        be a problem for the membranes?  


Answer:
1.) The glass chambers and membranes would not be a problem, but the      blue plastic part (the chamber holder) might be. If you are not in      a hurry, we can test this (not today, sometime during the week).              If you want to be on the safe side, then disassemble the chamber      and clean the glass chambers separately.


2.) we tested approx 0.3 M HNO3 over night at room temperature plus 2 hours at approx 35 °C on the following materials: PVDF (POS membranes, stoppers), POM [[O2k-Chamber Holder]]), butyl rubber  ( [[OroboPOS-Seal Tip]], and Viton [[O-ring\Viton\12x1 mm]].
 
2.) The glass chambers and membranes (FEP) would not be a problem, but some polymeric components might. Therefore we tested approx 0.3 M HNO3 over night at room temperature plus 2 hours at approx 35 °C on the following materials: FEP (POS membranes), PVDF ( white stoppers), POM [[O2k-Chamber Holder]]), butyl rubber  ( [[OroboPOS-Seal Tip]], and Viton [[O-ring\Viton\12x1 mm]]. No immediately visible problem was detected. Frequent or prolonged use might of course still have negative effects. Since HNO3 was nor problem for the polymers (non oxidizing) HCl of similar concentration is presumable save.
 
Of course 0.3 M HNO2 is still a rather mild way to deal with heavy metal contaminations. Classical methods (cocentrated acids) would require to remove the glass chamber and clean it outside the O2k as described for protein contamination [[MiPNet19.03_O2k-cleaning_and_ISS#General_cleaning_instructions]]. [[User:Fasching Mario|Fasching Mario]] 15:45, 20 August 2014 (CEST)

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Cleaning with diluted acids

Question: Colleagues and I want to introduce heavy metals into the chambers of the oxygraph-2k. We were wondering what that would mean in terms of cleaning: Would acid-washing the chambers with either 0,1-0,3N HNO3 or HCl be a problem for the membranes?


2.) The glass chambers and membranes (FEP) would not be a problem, but some polymeric components might. Therefore we tested approx 0.3 M HNO3 over night at room temperature plus 2 hours at approx 35 °C on the following materials: FEP (POS membranes), PVDF ( white stoppers), POM O2k-Chamber Holder), butyl rubber ( OroboPOS-Seal Tip, and Viton O-ring\Viton\12x1 mm. No immediately visible problem was detected. Frequent or prolonged use might of course still have negative effects. Since HNO3 was nor problem for the polymers (non oxidizing) HCl of similar concentration is presumable save.

Of course 0.3 M HNO2 is still a rather mild way to deal with heavy metal contaminations. Classical methods (cocentrated acids) would require to remove the glass chamber and clean it outside the O2k as described for protein contamination MiPNet19.03_O2k-cleaning_and_ISS#General_cleaning_instructions. Fasching Mario 15:45, 20 August 2014 (CEST)